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	<title>Comments on: Who is Lee Roupas and Can He Foster (No Pun) Real Change?</title>
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		<title>By: Pat Hickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Hickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the opportunity of a lifetime for the GOP - with a McCain Campaign attracting life-long Democrats to his Presidency, Illinois GOP should open the flaps ofthe &#039;big tent&#039; all the wider for savvy and precinct smart former Democrats like Patrick Guest of the 19th Ward.



This is a young man guys like Andy McKenna and Lee Roupas need to capitalize on this opportunity to build a political force.



http://www.19thwardrepublicans.com/



BTW - I enthusiastically support John McCain, but I have yet to &#039;take the soup&#039; under the &#039;big tent.&#039;  Could happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the opportunity of a lifetime for the GOP &#8211; with a McCain Campaign attracting life-long Democrats to his Presidency, Illinois GOP should open the flaps ofthe &#8216;big tent&#8217; all the wider for savvy and precinct smart former Democrats like Patrick Guest of the 19th Ward.</p>
<p>This is a young man guys like Andy McKenna and Lee Roupas need to capitalize on this opportunity to build a political force.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.19thwardrepublicans.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.19thwardrepublicans.com/</a></p>
<p>BTW &#8211; I enthusiastically support John McCain, but I have yet to &#8216;take the soup&#8217; under the &#8216;big tent.&#8217;  Could happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Fran Eaton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fran Eaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Dwyer,

We&#039;re delighted you found Mr. Shelstrom&#039;s comments so useful in writing your column.  Journalistic etiquette, however, would acknowledge that those comments were taken from Illinois Review.com.  We would have gladly cross-referenced this piece on our blog if the appropriate credit would have been given.  This valuable information would have been interesting to the thousands who read our blog every day.  Perhaps in the future, you&#039;ll see fit to give credit where credit is due.



http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2008/03/open-string-rep.html



Thanks,

Fran Eaton

Editor, Illinois Review.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Dwyer,</p>
<p>We&#8217;re delighted you found Mr. Shelstrom&#8217;s comments so useful in writing your column.  Journalistic etiquette, however, would acknowledge that those comments were taken from Illinois Review.com.  We would have gladly cross-referenced this piece on our blog if the appropriate credit would have been given.  This valuable information would have been interesting to the thousands who read our blog every day.  Perhaps in the future, you&#8217;ll see fit to give credit where credit is due.</p>
<p><a href="http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2008/03/open-string-rep.html" rel="nofollow">http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2008/03/open-string-rep.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Fran Eaton</p>
<p>Editor, Illinois Review.com</p>
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		<title>By: CDOBs Editors</title>
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		<dc:creator>CDOBs Editors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Fran,



Links are now inserted, and reference given to the excellent Illinois Review Column.



http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2008/03/open-string-rep.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fran,</p>
<p>Links are now inserted, and reference given to the excellent Illinois Review Column.</p>
<p><a href="http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2008/03/open-string-rep.html" rel="nofollow">http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2008/03/open-string-rep.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Mesick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Mesick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent piece pointing out the deficiencies of the Cook County GOp and how they will most likely continue under Roupas ans the best commentary we can get out of one of our most widely read Illinois conservative blogs is a cry for recognition?



I am skeptical about this young man and can only hope he actually brings about the badly needed change. Here in Proviso Township we have no real organization and it appears our organization is either non-existent or in bed with the Democrats who run the township.



In the spirit of giving people a chance before we criticize them, I will wait and see what actions he takes before I say any more. It is not encouraging that he has the backing of known Dem sympathizer Liz Gorman. Let&#039;s hope we start with opposing the Democrats with REAL candidates and not straw ones to grease the skids of Democrats taking office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent piece pointing out the deficiencies of the Cook County GOp and how they will most likely continue under Roupas ans the best commentary we can get out of one of our most widely read Illinois conservative blogs is a cry for recognition?</p>
<p>I am skeptical about this young man and can only hope he actually brings about the badly needed change. Here in Proviso Township we have no real organization and it appears our organization is either non-existent or in bed with the Democrats who run the township.</p>
<p>In the spirit of giving people a chance before we criticize them, I will wait and see what actions he takes before I say any more. It is not encouraging that he has the backing of known Dem sympathizer Liz Gorman. Let&#8217;s hope we start with opposing the Democrats with REAL candidates and not straw ones to grease the skids of Democrats taking office.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Dwyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Dwyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re quite right, Ms. Eaton. My apologies. I&#039;ll be extra careful in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re quite right, Ms. Eaton. My apologies. I&#8217;ll be extra careful in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Setting the record straight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Setting the record straight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You either don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about, or you are deliberately being dishonest.



First, taking a shot at someone over some student body election 4 years ago is desperate and petty beyond belief.



Second, Republican turnout nose-dived under Gerson and Gordon in the 42nd ward.  And Gerson was never legally appointed in the first place.  Her &quot;appointment&quot; was never certified by the board of elections.  The rumor is Gordon resigned the post right before the municipal election in 2007 because he wanted to help Democrat Burt Natarus get reelected Alderman, and then hoped to get a city job.  That&#039;s always been his dream.



Anyway, when Gorman becomes Chairman she looks at the 42nd and says basically, I don&#039;t know who the committeeman is, but it sure as heck isn&#039;t that nasty, dishonest Gerson.



About the only thing Gerson is known for is smearing good Republicans on internet chatboards.  Kinda like what you&#039;ve done here, only much worse and more slanderous.



One year under Gorman&#039;s replacement in 42, and the GOP turnout recovered nicely.  Unfortunately, that woman did not run for election last month.



Yes, Gerson finally won in 42 in a 3 way.  But 55% of Republicans there said they wanted someone else.



This is all just more dishonesty and hypocricy from the Peraica goon squad.  The same guy who ran as a Dem twice and a guy who ran in the past with the endorsement and backing of Ed Vryolyak and Betty Maltese - but who now has the nerve to smear others as phony Republicans and says others are bad because they are tied to Fast Eddie.  The same guy who attacks Liz Gorman over a civil lawsuit involving her husband and a purely business deal, even as his own son now sits in jail for putting peoples&#039; lives at risk in a DUI crash.  A son who Tony got on the County payroll, who still lives under Tony&#039;s roof, just tested positive for cocaine and marijuana, and a son with at least one previous arrest for burglary.



Also, by the way, Gerson&#039;s &quot;election&quot; as City Chairman didn&#039;t follow their own rules.  No one beyond the city&#039;s gay faction even recognizes Gerson.  It&#039;s just a made-up title anyway, a meaningless subset of the County GOP.



Bill Dwyer, you should be embarrassed and ashamed of yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You either don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about, or you are deliberately being dishonest.</p>
<p>First, taking a shot at someone over some student body election 4 years ago is desperate and petty beyond belief.</p>
<p>Second, Republican turnout nose-dived under Gerson and Gordon in the 42nd ward.  And Gerson was never legally appointed in the first place.  Her &#8220;appointment&#8221; was never certified by the board of elections.  The rumor is Gordon resigned the post right before the municipal election in 2007 because he wanted to help Democrat Burt Natarus get reelected Alderman, and then hoped to get a city job.  That&#8217;s always been his dream.</p>
<p>Anyway, when Gorman becomes Chairman she looks at the 42nd and says basically, I don&#8217;t know who the committeeman is, but it sure as heck isn&#8217;t that nasty, dishonest Gerson.</p>
<p>About the only thing Gerson is known for is smearing good Republicans on internet chatboards.  Kinda like what you&#8217;ve done here, only much worse and more slanderous.</p>
<p>One year under Gorman&#8217;s replacement in 42, and the GOP turnout recovered nicely.  Unfortunately, that woman did not run for election last month.</p>
<p>Yes, Gerson finally won in 42 in a 3 way.  But 55% of Republicans there said they wanted someone else.</p>
<p>This is all just more dishonesty and hypocricy from the Peraica goon squad.  The same guy who ran as a Dem twice and a guy who ran in the past with the endorsement and backing of Ed Vryolyak and Betty Maltese &#8211; but who now has the nerve to smear others as phony Republicans and says others are bad because they are tied to Fast Eddie.  The same guy who attacks Liz Gorman over a civil lawsuit involving her husband and a purely business deal, even as his own son now sits in jail for putting peoples&#8217; lives at risk in a DUI crash.  A son who Tony got on the County payroll, who still lives under Tony&#8217;s roof, just tested positive for cocaine and marijuana, and a son with at least one previous arrest for burglary.</p>
<p>Also, by the way, Gerson&#8217;s &#8220;election&#8221; as City Chairman didn&#8217;t follow their own rules.  No one beyond the city&#8217;s gay faction even recognizes Gerson.  It&#8217;s just a made-up title anyway, a meaningless subset of the County GOP.</p>
<p>Bill Dwyer, you should be embarrassed and ashamed of yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Dwyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Dwyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You just gotta LOVE IT when someone without the nerve to post their real name posts as &quot;Setting the record straight.&quot; Some might call that cowardice.



STRS, the fact that a person elected to oversee Republican political operations in the second largest county in America has NEVER won an election or done the spade work required to do so is neither desperate nor petty. It&#039;s illustrative of real problems in your party.



Your contention that my making observations abot the sad state of affairs in the county GOP mkes me part of a &quot;goon squad&quot; is just assinine.



You mention Tony Peraica. I didn&#039;t. The mailaise in the Republican party here is far deeper and wider than the current Gorman, et al -Perica spitting match.



By the way, STRS, Gerald Gorman was flatly accused by two federal judges of LYING in federal court. That&#039;s perjury, STRS, and Liz Gorman&#039;s name is on the suit.



Do this, STRS- give us facts- numbers, names and on the record quotes, regarding the following sweeping assertions you&#039;ve made:



-- Republican turnout nose-dived under Gerson and Gordon in the 42nd ward.

-- About the only thing Gerson is known for is smearing good Republicans on internet chatboards.

-- No one beyond the city&#039;s gay faction even recognizes Gerson.

-- One year under Gorman&#039;s replacement in 42, and the GOP turnout recovered nicely.



Oh, and if you&#039;re up to it, STRS, use your actual name. Unless you&#039;re too embarrassed and ashamed of yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You just gotta LOVE IT when someone without the nerve to post their real name posts as &#8220;Setting the record straight.&#8221; Some might call that cowardice.</p>
<p>STRS, the fact that a person elected to oversee Republican political operations in the second largest county in America has NEVER won an election or done the spade work required to do so is neither desperate nor petty. It&#8217;s illustrative of real problems in your party.</p>
<p>Your contention that my making observations abot the sad state of affairs in the county GOP mkes me part of a &#8220;goon squad&#8221; is just assinine.</p>
<p>You mention Tony Peraica. I didn&#8217;t. The mailaise in the Republican party here is far deeper and wider than the current Gorman, et al -Perica spitting match.</p>
<p>By the way, STRS, Gerald Gorman was flatly accused by two federal judges of LYING in federal court. That&#8217;s perjury, STRS, and Liz Gorman&#8217;s name is on the suit.</p>
<p>Do this, STRS- give us facts- numbers, names and on the record quotes, regarding the following sweeping assertions you&#8217;ve made:</p>
<p>&#8211; Republican turnout nose-dived under Gerson and Gordon in the 42nd ward.</p>
<p>&#8211; About the only thing Gerson is known for is smearing good Republicans on internet chatboards.</p>
<p>&#8211; No one beyond the city&#8217;s gay faction even recognizes Gerson.</p>
<p>&#8211; One year under Gorman&#8217;s replacement in 42, and the GOP turnout recovered nicely.</p>
<p>Oh, and if you&#8217;re up to it, STRS, use your actual name. Unless you&#8217;re too embarrassed and ashamed of yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: CDOBs Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>CDOBs Editor</dc:creator>
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		<description>Revealing commentary, but a couple of CDOBs guidelines..



Annonymous postings are allowed.

Facts are better than conjecture.

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Editor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revealing commentary, but a couple of CDOBs guidelines..</p>
<p>Annonymous postings are allowed.</p>
<p>Facts are better than conjecture.</p>
<p>CDOBs may edit comments.</p>
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		<title>By: A Question</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Question</dc:creator>
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		<description>Does Lee Roupas also live at home with his parents?  His voter registration is at his parents&#039; house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Lee Roupas also live at home with his parents?  His voter registration is at his parents&#8217; house.</p>
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		<title>By: GOP needs change</title>
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		<dc:creator>GOP needs change</dc:creator>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think he could do any worse and I don&#039;t care that he&#039;s 18 or 58.  As long as he has the common sense and the value to do the right thing.  95% of all of our elected and &#039;experienced&#039; officials suck and are in bed with everyone by the time they take office.  It really just takes common sense and I&#039;m excited about this young guy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think he could do any worse and I don&#8217;t care that he&#8217;s 18 or 58.  As long as he has the common sense and the value to do the right thing.  95% of all of our elected and &#8216;experienced&#8217; officials suck and are in bed with everyone by the time they take office.  It really just takes common sense and I&#8217;m excited about this young guy!</p>
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