Carding the Palin-Biden debate, initially I made a mistake. As an old geezer, I showed my fondness for political tradition and was impressed with Joe Biden’s staccato recitation of facts and statistics…even lies…because that has been what I have grown up with. Having lived a span that extends from Franklin Roosevelt through most legislators who orate in that cavern known as the U.S. Senate, I have become at ease with those who rip off verbal paragraphs even if they have little relevance to the question involved. But I should have remembered. Ronald Reagan brought a new style of argumentation to modern politics-the conversational tone, the deferential bob of the head, shy smile and “there you go again.” So initially I was giving the debate to Joe Biden, albeit very thankful that Sarah Palin wasn’t gumming it up.
But midway through the debate I knew I was far wrong…and that Palin was winning. Three reasons.
First, , I realized the horrendous anti-Palin propaganda meted out from the mainstream liberal media actually helped her by lowering expectations. By the time the late night TV talk show hosts and most commentators finished, one was expecting her to stumble onto the stage and wipe her nose on the drapes. She gained terrifically through lowered expectations.
Second,…It came to me as she made the wry comment about the joke that she and Biden both attempted which the audience didn’t get: this woman is a speech-making revolutionary! Just as Reagan had brought a new style of conversational informality to politics-along with a light touch-Palin has restored it and has added a fascinating new touch. You don’t realize how both Reagan and Palin have changed the style of political speaking until you look at the old clips of politicians. FDR’s public speeches (excluding the brilliantly conversational fireside chats delivered in the Blue Room with no audience present, just radio engineers) were all bombast, orations which owed its allegiance to the late 19th century (notably Bryan). The same with Truman, Ike, JFK…
JFK: Remember “Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we will pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty?” Beautiful words but oracular, hearkening back to Bryan.
These all echoed the 19th century’s Bryan: LBJ (excessively so), Nixon (heavily so), Ford (ponderously so), Carter (boringly so), G.H.W. Bush (mechanically so), Clinton (unendingly so), George W. Bush (largely unimaginatively so). All 19th century-indebted. That same style carries over to the U.S. Senate of today. The senators I’ve heard and admired for speaking style-Humphrey, Dirksen, Simon (but only as an orator), Ted Kennedy et al-all owe their flavor to old 19th century orations. John McCain is resolutely 19th century as a speaker. And the epitome of the 19th century boffo, expansive, almost a caricature of pompous Senator Claghorn is Joe Biden. He’s so out of date next to Palin who is of this era, he seemed to be almost embarrassing.
To continue: Now when you got to Reagan, you realized he had abandoned the old 19th century ponderousness and rarely raised his voice (notable exception: “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!”). Reagan’s most notable speech as president (to my mind) was his remarks at Pointe du Hoc, France commemorating the 40th anniversary of D-Day. There he signaled a break with the 19th century oratory. He spoke conversationally like the radio actor he was. Remember? His voice was soft. “These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc. These are the men who took the cliffs.”
Winding up this second point: Biden was good, the emblematic 19th century senatorial orator. Against another 19th century figment he might have won the debate. But he lost it to a woman who applied not just Reagan’s conversational style but her own 21st century youthful cadence which even a Reagan couldn’t have been expected to imitate. Palin has brought back the Reagan conversational tone but added something of her own-which is the next point.
Third, Palin’s style is contained in the youth and down-home twang (yes I heard a twang: does Alaskans have a twang or is it unaccountably western or midwestern?). Remember how she acknowledged the presence of her Dad in the audience with a self-confident wink? Notice how she drops her “ing’s”? She connected overwhelmingly with her audience as Frank Luntz’s focus group later showed. In essence, no other reasonable choice that McCain had for vice president…Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty, Bobby Jindal…could have done it like Palin.
My prediction is that her victory will not be recognized by the liberal media or intelligentsia but they know she has won. Therefore she will continue to be their target until November 4.
Now what has to happen now is this: The House will have to pass the rescue package. It should calm if not subordinate the markets. The long nightmare on the economy may subside for the campaign to continue on its normal basis.
Which means that since Palin has redeemed herself from the unjust attacks from those who were appalled at the Katie Couric-Charlie Gibson interviews…she will continue to be herself…will surround herself with a new staff which will understand her homey jargon…and the campaign will continue apace…even approaching the possibility renewed that this thing can be turned around.
Pat Hickey says:
Sarah Palin is a force that the louses in public debate can not touch, but with whom Americans connect with ease.
Katie Couric, for all of her chipmunk cheek chirpiness, is a typical passive aggressive punk, trying desperately to right her sinking career- a career that requires a dearth of talent and a cargo hold of aggression.
The MSNBC Doublemint Twins of Propaganda Olberbore and Maddow have not the wit nor the substance to disarm Sarah Palin.
Change has come.
Mary says:
First, I can't believe you are buying into the "liberal media" boogeyman. This accusation is how the Republicans work the refs, by calling even the faintest hint of un-complimentary reporting liberal media bias. Katie Couric did nothing but sit back and allow Palin to talk - she only gave Palin the rope, and Sarah hung herself.
Second, I'm a little stunned that you don't mention the most poignant moment of the debate: Joe Biden losing his voice when attempting to speak about the death of his first wife and baby daughter. A person would need a heart of stone not to be touched. Amazingly, Sarah Palin proved she had exactly that - she did not even pause to acknowledge Biden's loss, but launched immediately into her "I'm a maverick" talking point. This was the low point of the debate and showed absolutely no class or empathy on her part.
I think that moment, along with the bizarre remark about Joe Biden's teacher wife "getting her reward in Heaven", undercut all of her so-called "folksy charm" and made her look totally heartless.
:) says:
Sen. Joe Biden is emotionally unstable.
Maybe he can get away with hurling racial insults to "Dunkin Doughnuts", his high IQ lies.
there was 177 billion spent on Afghanistan. His calim (3 times by my count) that more on Iraq in 3 weeks (9 Billion for the most expensie 3 weeks) frankly shows a total lack of any fiscal or forign affairs experiance.
JB BO lied and stole with Rahm Emanual (D-Fannie he was a board member )and Barney Frank(D-Fannie killed all regulation and oversight) our futures with Fannie/Freddie. Cruel. Wait till the union members figure out that their pensions are gone.
Soooo
lets take on JB's 14 lies and thiefs;
George says:
Saying whatever comes into your head, regardless of its accuracy, in a stern, professorial voice may seem impressive, but its the game of a con man, not a leader.
Sarah has substance, Joe is glib. I'm thinking people are figuring that out.
Dan Kelley says:
Nobody denies the tragic loss that Senator Biden endured, but the fact is that the fatal car accident occurred more than thirty years ago.
Mayor James Michael Curley of Boston once lost a child and observed that the sympathy vote would permit him to win the next election.
Whenever Al Gore, John Edwards or any other politician exploits the memory of their deceased family members for political gain, it sickens me. Biden has repeatedly referenced this tragedy far too often.
Biden Smashes Palin Embarassing says:
Biden actually showed texture, I thought the guy was flat he was very cool. I gained respect for him and am now very comfortable voting for the Obama ticket with Biden as the VP.
Palin EMBARRASSED the Republican party. Everyone has such low expectations, anyone can see she is lost. Im sorry Sarah, you are not smart and McCain should have went with Ridge or even Giuliani.
Sarah Palin is an Embarrassment to us.
:) says:
"Biden Smashes Palin"
so are you saying that the "Obama/Biden ticket" deep down wants to beat women.
Is that why Joe the Drunk rambles on about "women's beating issues"
John C says:
I can't for the life of me understand what anyone sees in Sarah Palin. This reminds me of the same group of people who thought George Bush was "more like me" or would be better "to have a beer with" so they elected him President. And look where that got us. But these people just refuse to wake up. Look at the economy. Look at your neighbor's jobs flying oversees. Look at the toxic food, toys, you name it coming in to our country from China because huge corporations want to hire the cheapest labor they can and make more money for their shareholders. Does anyone really think that businesses who move their customer service "call centers" to Asia and then train people who can barely speak English ("Hello my name is Mary Ann" -- yeah right) care even the slightest about the American people? Or how about your credit card with the payment due in 28 days, I mean 21 days, I mean 14 days, I mean practically the day it arrives in the mail and if you miss the payment due date you get a $10, I mean $15, I mean $25, I mean $29, I mean $39 late fee. This is what the de-regulation crowd gave us, and some of you apparently like it because you want more of the same. This is the "free market" view of the Republican party and we need more of it, so let's elect John McCain and Sarah Palin, gosh, golly, darnit, you betcha!
TRV says:
Palin was fresh and genuine. Biden was forceful and self-assured. One problem - fact-checking Biden reveals that he can forcefully and convincing lie... not even a blink. The guy is amazing! Sign the guy up for the KGB, but not for the Veep spot.
George says:
John C, are you really that dim? It was the Dems who let Fannie and Freddie get so out of control they tanked the economy. Repubs have been warning about it for a decade and the Dems absolutely refused to let F & F be properly regulated. This is a crisis of unregulated government and you want more of it. It blows my mind that when you guys are wrong over and over and over you still argue with a straight face that you are the smart party. As for the war your hero Biden has had more positions on it than Bresslers has flavors of ice cream. All you need to know where Joe is on the war is to loook at what the latest poll says. There a good chance that the stupids will win this time (that's the Dems) and about the only good thing about it is that it should put to rest forever their claims to be smart. Whatever happened to the party of Truman, Roosevelt and Kennedy (John, not Teddy)?
Jerry Fahey says:
YOU BETCHA!
Biden won the debate. Palin didn't collapse into a pile of drool so she held her own. YOU BETCHA!
Here's one of her more amusing quotes of the debate:
"Say it ain't so, Joe, there you go again pointing backwards again. You preferenced [sic] your whole comment with the Bush administration. Now doggone it, let's look ahead and tell Americans what we have to plan to do for them in the future. You mentioned education and I'm glad you did. I know education you are passionate about with your wife being a teacher for 30 years, and god bless her. Her reward is in heaven, right? I say, too, with education, America needs to be putting a lot more focus on that and our schools have got to be really ramped up in terms of the funding that they are deserving. Teachers needed to be paid more. I come from a house full of school teachers. My grandma was, my dad who is in the audience today, he's a schoolteacher, had been for many years. My brother, who I think is the best schoolteacher in the year, and here's a shout-out to all those third graders at Gladys Wood Elementary School, you get extra credit for watching the debate,"
Those of you who think she was a great pick by the McCainiac are drinking kool aid from the toilet bowl of wide stance Republicanism.
In the case of Hickey that toilet bowl is likely located in a bar along Western Avenue south of 103rd. Or as he may call it the "Stations of the Cross".
George says:
Ha, Jerry, have you checked out the fact-checkers? Biden told, at last count, 24 verifiable whoppers. Palin was never in danger of collapsing into a pile of drool. Biden did it rather elegantly, I will concede. But every time he was pushed into a corner by her, he simply lied. Is that what you Dems now consider to be qualification? the ability to lie smoothly over and over again?
cawren says:
JOE SIXPACK AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
I do not want a vice president that winks and says GOLLY.
Sarah Palin did not stumble. She memorized her material well. However the vision of Chatty Cathy kept coming to mind.
What about HER Dealing with the economy, war or the security of our country?
With no talking point cards to help her. What then?
John McCain is the oldest individual to run for the Office of President.
The Thought Of
Sarah PALIN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
Chills me to the BONE!
Given McCains age and health history Ms. Palin could in deed become Commander in Chief. Given McCains age and health history
Ms. Palin could in deed become COMMANDER IN CHIEF.
mary says:
Katie left the good parts of her interview with Palin in the edit room. He goal was to destroy Palin. I'm glad Palin mentioned that "it's good to speak unedited."
She spoke plainly and truthfully. Biden relied on lies and hallucinations.
Jack says:
Might want to go back to intermediate school to work on those spelling issues, Tom. Your girl's name is Palin, not "Palen."
Incidentally, Biden destroyed her. Hard to believe anyone with half a brain would think anything else.